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We are making a web browser!
PREVIOUSLY: >>62232913

In the face of recent changes in Firefox and Chrome some anons were asking for a /g/'s perfect web browser, we collected the most wanted here and plan on continuing with the creation.

To contribute follow the WORK PLAN, join the IRC to ask developers for a repo, and get to programming!
IRC on Rizon: #/g/netrunner

Website: https://netrunner.cc/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCes2uiC-4xSBwqnldCFbh4Q
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Team_NetRunner
Gitgud: https://gitgud.io/odilitime/netrunner/
Teknik: https://git.teknik.io/gyroninja/netrunner

>WORK PLAN
Look at the features list and implement them, ask what is currently being worked on if you don't know.

FEATURES https://pastebin.com/bnUU6kcu
FAQ https://pastebin.com/gjp7QmQJ
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>>62265906
why m**nman tho?
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>>62265929
The moonman logo is to keep out SJWs and others who would inject their unwanted politics into this. The devs don't care about what your political views are, only that you can contribute to this project.
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>>62265906
What is that dark Safari logo browser?
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>>62265951
The dark one is webkit nightly and the purple one is safari techonology preview
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>>62265906
What can it do?
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>>62265993
It's very basic and lacks in features right now, but soon it will be the browser /g/ always wanted.
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>>62266005
>it will be the browser /g/ always wanted.

So just a black terminal with green text?
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>>62266012
You'll get theme support and images and basic CSS, themes are being worked on right now because CSS is a low priority. I don't know if CSS3 will be implemented, but the essential features will be.
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this shit looks good. keep up!
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>>62265942
>Stop it being political by being political
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>>62266472
It's just to scare away people that aren't wanted here
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>>62266479
This
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>>62265906
Stop slowing down TOR. Makin' the FBI's job harder.
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w3m is kinda /comfy/ tho
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bump
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This is what the NetRunner installer will look like
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>>62266479
It doesn't scare me and I'm a gay bisexual black programmer.
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>>62268919
I still don't know what are those progress bar at bottom left mean
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>>62266472
It's a red herring
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>>62269022
well child, it was current file, overall progress and remaining disk space
t. ex-windows 3.1 user
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>>62269022
left: the current file being copied
middle: all the files (the same progress bar that can be seen in the middle window, too)
right: free disk space, if it's running really low (only a few MB free) a stop sign appears
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>>62265906

No Firefox nightly on the image. KYS.
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>>62268919
beautiful
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>>62268919
It's like when I was a kid and installed Worms from CD.
Fucking nostalgia
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How do I install GLFW as an independent dependency? CMake is a pain in the ass to deal with
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>>62269517
use this script then: https://gitgud.io/odilitime/netrunner/blob/master/deps/getdeps_lnx.sh
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>>62269638
I did that and now it's asking for a glu.h, what's up with that?
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>firefox, safari, and chrome are god-tier

shill thread
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>>62269860
(still assuming you're on linux) You need to install OpenGL which depends on your video driver.
https://stackoverflow.com/a/3939495
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>>62270006
Will it be possible to get this to work with mbedtls 2.4?
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Why aren't you faggots using an existing rendering engine?
It's like you want this browser to be shit.
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>>62270006
>>62270137
What is with this error when compiling?
https://pastebin.com/c5P64h7E
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>>62270192
As much as I agree that it should use webkitgtk, it's too late in development to go and change the engine now.

Perhaps put this in the OP, OdiliTime
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>>62265906
What's the current Acid3 test score?
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>>62270137
No one afaik has built with 2.4, but I believe the 2.4 API is compatible. Let me know how it turns out. I do know 2.3 will not work.

>>62270192
"We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard; because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win"

>>62270320
cfgparser, will have to ask despair. we're not using it yet, you may just be able to nuke that file.

>>62270327
I have no control or communication with whoever makes these OP. TeamNetrunner is not involving with making 4/g/ threads.

>>62270398
This one I know: we can't run the tests because no javascript. Plus we have no CSS infrastructure so, a clear 0.
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>>62270320
>https://pastebin.com/c5P64h7E
Fixed that a while back, try pulling from https://gitgud.io/despair/netrunner
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>>62270461
Oh, I'm sorry then, I must have missed the part where you wrote you were in the middle of a technological race with the second largest superpower in the world, that could decide the fate of humanity. Carry on.

Seriously though, even projects with large teams and funding like brave decide to go with preexisting rendering engines. Why do it all over again if it has been done many times, and perfected over the years.
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>>62270552
There's actually 2 superpowers.

>perfected
>no room for improvement or competition
yea, ok
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>>62270592
>no room for improvement or competition
>implying a bunch of anons are gonna implement a standard better than industry professionals have over the years
I 100% support the effort to make a new browser, because there's many things that could be improved/changed over the leading products, but the rendering engine part? Sorry, but that's just an implemantation of the standard. Even huge organization like mozilla can't make theirs as efficient as blink, and you're telling me you're gonna improve upon something here?

My point is, there is a room for improvement in browsers in general.
And there is NO room for improvement (for small scale project like this) on something as specific and narrowly focused as a rendering engine that's implementing a standard.
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>>62270461
>>62270530
Alright, I'll try a fresh compile later. Should I stop using the odilitime repo?
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>>62270552
Seriously? Why not just tell artists: "There's already been a Picasso, so don't attempt anything he did, it's already been done to perfection"

Have you ever seen a product with a large development team move as quick as nimble as a small devel team? The meeting alone take most of your week.

We end up with a world with layer on top layer of abstraction because it's "too scary" to learn the layer below it. This technological fear is killing performance and desktops (because mobile doesn't quite have so many layers... yet...). Enjoy running all your electron apps because that's all the current generation knows how to build.
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>>62270688
Let me jump in here. Our goal isn't to make a better blink (a consumer facing product). Our goal is to make a better Netrunner (a developer facing product).
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>>62265906
>written in C

Absolutely disgusting.
Use rust you giant faggots.
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>>62270703
No, that's still the official repo, I maintain port for Windows, and my changes go upstream eventually
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>>62270734
Yeah, I mean why are we even writing browsers in C/C++? We should be doing it in Assembly. Stop, what am I even talking about. We should just write bytecode. I mean, should we just say "people already came up with programming languages"? Just think how limiting is that.
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>>62270847
So you're more bleeding edge for the linux build?
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>>62270861
No, my repo is best for linux builds
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>>62270855
I didn't say one extreme or the other but you can equivocate all you want. Less is more.
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>>62270926
When will you sync the changes despair did to stop the error for linux?
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>>62270958
The point is, in 2017, just as you wouldn't write a C compiler, you shouldn't write a web rendering engine from scratch.
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>>62271011
working on it while we speak. Found more errors with his latest repo on linux too.
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>>62271019
Why not? Afraid someone will make something better than WebKit or Blink, pajeet?
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>>62265906
Why is Firefox in god tier again?
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>>62271019
My point is why not? Computer science used to have students build compilers all the time. Now I wouldn't use a non-major compiler in a product release but my point is in the attempt of creation, you gain understanding.

Most coders are going to get a job where it's their job to glue shit together as quickly as possible. They aren't going to learn much about how things work if they're kept from it with abstractions.

You basically suggesting that no one should ever try to make anything hard or that already exists. And I'm telling you that means a world where you use a js framework in your electron app which is essentially a js framework.

>>62271134
opinions are like assholes, learn to ignore.
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>>62271168
Okay, fair point, If you want to learn and it's your toy project by all means do what you wish.
I came from the perspective of wanting this project to develop into a full blown, usable browser, because it's pretty cool, which I doubt is gonna happen if you make the engine from scratch.
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>>62266479
Literal jew here, its not scaring me
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>>62271261
The scope of this project is limited to shitposting on 4/g and stackoverflow without bleeding identifying information. Definitely sounds doable.
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>>62271276
Then you're wanted here
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Can someone give me a quick rundown on Pale Moon vs Iridium?
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>putting Vivaldi and Brave, the two best browsers, in the irrelevant tier.

Shiggy diggy.
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>>62265942
>its a calculated move to show we're only interested in code

More like you chose an icon associated with edgy 14 year old racist johnny rebel tier meme-music so that people would be able to immediately know not to take this shitty half-assed re-skin of an already shitty browser project seriously, which is for the best, since it will never be completed anyway.
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>>62271322
They're both shit.
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>>62266479
>implying anyone serious gives a shit about a meme-browser thats commits are all logos
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>>62271549
>thats commits
wow
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>>62271498
You sound upset.
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>>62271624
Not really, it's just obnoxious to see all this unwarranted self importance, as if literally anyone outside these threads gives a shit.
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>>62271653
Ok so stop posting.
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I dont want to use the binary, how to build it ?
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>>62271690
clone repo, install dependencies, make
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Bad list.

Here's the ultimate list:
Brave, Iridium and Waterfox equally.

Midori in case you have very low specs

Epic Privacy for more private sessions
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I didn't know Comodo Ice Dragon, nor Lunascape... They are shitty propietary botnets, right??...
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>>62271303
It'll be usable on all the web
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fix'd
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>>62271929
>being this assmad about palemoon
>not just writing your own addons
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Alright, I meet the dependencies for everything but GLEW which I have compiled in another directory, I setup the make file and it compiles without error, but when I run the program it gives me
error while loading shared libraries: libGLEW.so.2.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Yet I have the -L and -I pointing right to it, what did I do wrong?
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>>62271929
Fixed again.
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>>62265906
You listed pale moon as excellent tier? Thanks now I know to never try (((Netrunner))).
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>>62271011
Ok, both repos up to date with linux fixes.

>>62273034
is there a libGLEW.so.2.0 in your -L directory?

>>62273219
TeamNetrunner didn't make op
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>>62273219
OPs image was made before pale moon did what they did
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>>62273248
There is a mbedtls warning treated as an error.
https://pastebin.com/Tj0ELMgU
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>>62273380
Shoot, yea remove -Werror=zero-as-null-pointer-constant from WARNINGS
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>>62265906
Waterfox and Firefox Beta need to switch places, and all versions of Safari are shit tier.
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>>62265906
GOAT pic there OP
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>>62265906
>comet cursor
kek. how many people here are even old enough to remember that?
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>>62265906
>>62271929
>>62273153
Use the new logo
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>>62273266
wut did palemoon do?
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>>62270461
>"We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard; because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win"
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>>62274929
"Ask not what your Pale Moon can do for you, but what you can do for your Pale Moon."
Your browser, Our way.
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What about a mobile version?
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>>62275993
fork the linux repo, grab Android Studio, target Dalvik and ART, ????, profit?
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What's a good android browser? I ran into armorfly and thought it was perfect until I saw the cheeta shit owned it. What do
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>>62277001
This would be cool
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>>62270327
>As much as I agree that it should use webkitgtk
>webkitgtk
>gtk
Fuck off.
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>>62265906
Are you building a new rendering engine or is this going to be yet another Chrome ripoff?
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>>62278904
We're building a new rendering engine from scratch, indeed.
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>>62265906
How long is this going to take you? You should've been done a long time ago. Stop shitposting on /g/ and get back to work, you bunch of lazy faggots!
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>>62274675
>32-bit Firefox outperformed 64-bit Waterfox in Peacekeeper browser benchmark tests run by TechRepublic in 2012,[4] and 64-bit Waterfox slightly outperformed 32-bit Firefox in tests run by Softpedia in 2014.[5] However, in 2016 64-bit Waterfox performed worse than 64-bit Mozilla Firefox in the Kraken, SunSpider, JetStream, and Octane 2.0 benchmarks.[6] Benchmarks were once available on the developers website but have since been removed.[7]
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So wait, is webkit nightly good?
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>>62265906
>Waterfox below Firefox
>Firefox beta at top
Gtfo you bloatware idiot
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>>62268925
Then you aren't a soft fuck who's likely to add politics to your programming.
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>>62265906
vivaldi had a logo change recently
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Lookin good so far. Looking forward to the themes support.
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>>62265942
>inject their unwanted politics
Moonman is literally a /pol/ meme.
No one is going to give a shit about Netrunner because of this.
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>>62269982
none of these are there, are you blind?
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>>62265906
puts Firefox in god tier :DDD LIKE THOSE FAGS ARENT BURNING IN HELL

> Also Opera >>>Firefox can confirm
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>>62271929
Where's Firefox ESR/IceWeasel?
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Why does it run so slow for something so incomplete and featureless (on Ubuntu)?
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>>62282838
>https://netrunner.cc/
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>>62282865
>No one is going to give a shit about Netrunner because of this.
>Muh PR

You see this is the shit that makes you people stick out like a sore thumb. Netrunner isn't something people are trying to sell. It's not a service and it's not a business partner. There is literally zero reasons to give a fuck what other people think because the devs will still work on it because they can see past the trite bullshit that it has nothing to do with the browser and why it's there.

Fuck, I'd say keep it as a logo even after the beta phase. It would keep faggots like you from claiming it's their new hipster browser like what happened to FireCuck.
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>>62284740
Why make it then. You claim I'm a hipster yet you're acting like a turbo hipster by literally using a browser that no one uses.
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>>62283060
Eclipsed logo looks fucking cool
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>>62282838
It's already there.
https://gitgud.io/odilitime/netrunner/blob/master/browser.ntrml
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>>62285469
Here is another warning treated as an error. It works with mbedtls 2.4, so you can lower the dependency version on the gitgud dependencies
https://pastebin.com/TfkZE8Xd
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>>62285469
So I can just drop in any image I want and change the browser.ntrml file and it works? Will it accept any image format?
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Guys my fav chromium fork doesnt seem to get updates anymore what should I use to stay up2date and safe without getting botnet'd
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>>62284876
They want to make a browser from scratch. What do you care? It's not like you could add anything to the project. Go cry about racist memes on /lgbt/.
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>>62284876
>Why make it then.
Why make any FOSS or hobby project? Why make Linux?
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>>62285640
pale meme
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>>62285871
To have something to complain about and then anyways do it
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>>62285623
Use PAM, unfortunately Photoshop and Gimp don't support this as 32bits directly, so you have to convert it.

1. make PNG with alpha transparency (32bit)
2. run them through this site: https://convertio.co/png-pam/

We only accept netpbm (most these subformats don't do alpha, except PAM and P8). I'm in the middle of trying to see if TGA will work.
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>>62265906
>Stallman tier on the top
>no Icecat there
wtf
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>>62285506
at the top of the file
#pragma GCC diagnostic ignored "-Wimplicit-fallthrough"
#pragma GCC diagnostic push

on the last line
#pragma GCC diagnostic pop
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>>62285506
(it's a non-crypto hash function. It's supposed to fall through.)
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>>62286186
>>62286205
So you're not going to fix that?
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>>62286413
We are but it may take 24 hours before you'll see it in the repo. We're just giving you the fix early so you don't have to wait.
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>>62286115
Why did you pick PAM over using a regular PNG file?
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>>62286526
I actually asked about that...apparently we can't even count on people to have libpng sitting around in /usr/?/lib
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>>62286562
Why not just slap on libpng as a dependency they have to have? I know you want dependencies to be low, but doing this because someone might not have libpng is silly
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>>62286591
we're likely require libpng in the future, but I think this is a good workaround until we're there.
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>>62286601
Alrighty then
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>>62265906
>Iridium at God Tier

OP, are you a fucking idiot or are you just illiterate? It LITERALLY says on the Iridium website that the browser phones home to Google..
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>>62265906
Who's responsible for the logo?
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>>62287387
It was decided very early into the browsers life to make it moonman to keep out SJWs
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>>62265906
Why not just use a web browser that won't eat up all your memory and disk space like Dillo?
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>>62287482
>implying
But anyway, could use some material/flat aesthics. Really.
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>>62287516
No really, even in the very first thread that was talking about a new browser before it was even called netrunner or even started being worked on people were suggesting to make it moonman
https://www.netrunner.cc/archive/60885202/archive.rebeccablacktech.com/index.html
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>>62287516
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/05/flat_uis_designs_are_22_per_cent_slower_official/
kill self
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>>62274751
went totalitarian
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Make the bookmark manager separate, I am think on something.
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>>62285640
Good luck anon, I've been trying to find a non-shitty replacement for FF, and nothing.
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>>62286141
Icecat went for webextensions though
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>>62286591
>>62286601
>libpng as a dependency
>require libpng
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there is literally nothing wrong with selling your info to use a better product for free, so why should I stop using Chrome?
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>>62290289
Hi chrome shill, were you been?
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>>62290308
Just saying... Why should I bother about people selling my data? Do I get hurt in any way by doing this?
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Lookin' good /g/oys.

Coming along well.
Keep up the initiative.
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>>62290240
You got a better idea to do this because this current method for themes is completely inane
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>>62290308
w.e fool
Chrome's way faster than this trash and its actually installed on peoples computers
while this pos is only a pipe dream

GG kid
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>>62290527
PAM is enough. Don't promote feature creep.
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>>62290581
It's not feature creep.
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My 39MB bookmarks take an awful amount of time to port from and to firefox, is there any application to browse a firefox bookmark files?
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Is anyone else having issues applying themes to iridium? It just gets applied to tab and omni bars. nothing on the new tab screen. What do?
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>- Written in C.

I saw this in the work plan. How do you intend to achieve this? I would be way more likely to contribute if the codebase weren't in C++. (Not a C++ hater I just don't really feel like learning all of the language's 9000 features.)
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>>62271506
They're all shit, bro.
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>>62291470

I agree. I think anything written by a group of hobbyists should be as close to the hardware as possible, especially if one of the side goals is to learn. My understanding is this thing us supposed to be as barebones and non-shill as possible so why not just use C? Not a critque, genuinely curious.
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>>62271498
This, the logo should be g related anyways not pol
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>>62291470
>>62291791
Maybe in the future it can be a rewrite, when you faggots start helping
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Firefox won't back my bookmarks and Chromium is the only thing that can!

AAAaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
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>>62291791
sleep tight
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FireFox is dying and Chrome is shit. IS THE APOCALYPSE!
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can't beat eww in emacs
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bump
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>>62280340
What does that have to do with using the current fucking logo?
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>>62291470
>>62291791
We're not using all 9k features. We're actively avoiding following a strict OOP paradigm. We've mixed C++ and C code.

We are using smart pointers (std::unique_ptr and std::shared_ptr) to give us some rust like protection. We do plan to use std::thread for threading. I'm very proud we really don't have any custom templates in this project yet.

Despair is a C coder and we're moving parts that don't need to be in C++ into C. The classes are mostly used for a modular/plugin like systems where extending an interface will allow other developers to easily add functionality.

C++ these days is p. damn close to the hardware. But realize our goal is to get it built first and then worry about optimizations later.
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>>62286643
Everything on that list is based on or is a fork of Chromium and Netscape, while using Webkit or Gecko.

There is no safe browser besides the text based ones. Hence Netrunner.
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>>62265906
So Firefox is excellent tier? I've been using it for awhile but for some reason I have issues loading images nowadays from imgur and other such sites. Like if I pick a wiki or something, and see an image that usually clicking on it leads to a full resolution, it just does nothing and adds some text to the link, or if I open it in a new tab all I see is white. Googling this problem gives me solutions from back when Firefox still had Java so I can't even bother trying them out as I cannot replicate their instructions. Anyone know how to fix this?
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>>62271329
Vivaldi isn't that great. At least when I tried it out ast yer. But Brave isn't too bad abd I've been using it for few weeks now. Extensions besides, it runs incredibly quickly (made comparisons with Chrome on browserbench) and runs slightly better and fast than chrome. Although, I know a lot of people will turn it away because the currect lack of extensions, though its not as much of a problem for me
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Why is waterfox not ok but firefox is?
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Also like to an unchromium browser that is /g/ approved
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>>62298847
No, it's pretty much a college project doomed to become abandonware.

>>62297448
Uninstall/reinstall browser, start over with profile. Try addons one at a time to see if one of them is fucking you over.
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>>62298828
Waterfox is pretty much maintained by one dude. That exacerbates the already pretty big problem of browser forks processing security updates slowly and poorly. Also he's trying to offer long term support of legacy addons, and that's probably not going to end well.
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aesthetic 80s logo
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quick question:

what's the adblocker of choice these days? i'm using ublock origin and i don't know if it's bad yet, as every year or two, new ones suddenly seem better.
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>>62299288
No, ublock has been the consistent winner for quite a while now. I would be mildly surprised if something better came along in the next 5 years. But then again the whole damn concept of an adblocker will probably be different then. Plus there's no telling how it will handle firefox's switch to webextensions.
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jesus christ what a shit name

why cant freetards into naming

>gnu
>blagg
>fedora

kill yourselves, regards, a
>>>/pol/ack
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alright, so i just installed iridium as of this thread, is there any way to get a browser history to work less like the chrome "open up a brand new tab and show your history in this tab " and move it to the way firefox and IE used to? (a little window opens up on the left with all the sites that make you want to kill yourself)? I use the history bar a lot and it's a real pain like it is in chrome.

it's a dealbreaker for me like this.
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>>62299502
Sure thing, pajeet
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>>62268919
Fond memories of win 3.1 right here. Simple and asthetically pleasing.
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>>62296244
Could you update the GNU/Linux binaries more often? Like do a nightly build of the binaries?
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>>62299288
If you want to try something different try adnauseam
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>>62265906
Why don't you add it to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers ?
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>>62265906
what is name of the BLACKED safari browser
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>>62265942
You'll be attracting the RJWs though, they don't contribute to code either.
Why not just like a retro themed globe or just a black box? That'll keep normies out
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>>62301845
Moonman keeps them out for sure
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>>62268919
What if I'm on linux/bsd/macos and installed it through a package manager?
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>>62268919
>flexera (and predecessors) is shit for bundling a 16-bit unpacker as late as 1999
Might just roll a Wix or InnoSetup project instead
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>>62301867
By RJWs I mean Right wing Justice Warriors
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>>62299502
t. pajeet
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>>62301933
I haven't heard a peep out of /pol/, so they really don't care
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>>622659
Is there a difference between "???-tier" and "Stallman Tier"? Is /g/ making their perfecto-secure browser and it'll have Moon-Man as an icon?
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>>62302018
>>62265906
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>>62265906
>Moonman
More like Nazirunner, amirite?
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>>62302072
Moonman is a man of the peace
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>>62302082
And Firefox is excellent. Yeah, right.
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>>62302072
Yeah. Are you going to cry now?
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>>62302137
Everything he does was in self defense
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>>62302147
>>62302149
I will let /pol/ know that the cool guys at /g/ are making a Nazi-friendly browser. They will be so glad to help.
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Why wouldn't you call it Gritgunner or something cool? Faggot
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>>62302165
Please do, we need more devs
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>>62302176
That name sounds even lamer
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>>62302165
Thanks.
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>>62302177
>>62302216
>this butthurt
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>>62302227
Stop your bluffing and make that thread
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Is iridium really that good?
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>>62302227
>Y-you mad?
If we're Nazis, why would we care if you post about it on /pol/? If we're not and do care, wouldn't your entire reason for being upset over this fall apart?

I'm also curious how it would hurt us anyway. Some random redditors post a couple more logos?
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>>62268919
....but I *do* have a copy of IShield Express buried in one of my old VMs
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>>62302479
He's bluffing, he never posted the thread on /pol/ like he said he would
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>>62268919
Whatever happened to installers that conveniently showed HDD space, how fast it was going from the CD to the HDD and then how fast from the HDD to your folder destination.
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>>62302660
disk space became cheap, before SSDs became common
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>>62265906

fixed the pic, op
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>>62270800
The installer they want also looks like it still uses a "wizzard"

The project seemed cool, fucks just want to make the next icecat. Something that looks like it was made before 2003 with little modern usability.

Meanwhile, Firecucks can implement frivolous shit like WebVR, these guys are reinventing the wheel with rendering.
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>>62302815
Interesting
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>>62265942
Your logic is so fucked

>Use racist icon to promote project and deter people of a certain racial background from working on the project
>Say that you're not actually being racist

Don't you know that nobody on this site gives a shit anyway? There's no need to add this racist shit to deter people from joining your project. You're on edgy kike-lord web domain central: 4chan. Adding the political bullshit just proves what kind of project you want to run and starts shit
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>>62304242
It's more people outside of this site that are unwanted and must be kept out than the people on this website
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>>62304242
It only starts shit with losers who quite literally can't stop complaining about the logo on a project they're not part of or capable of contributing to. This is even worse than being unable to comprehend that you can simply not use the browser. The browser isn't even finished.

Now post another reaction image to hide your tears.
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>>62302815
>fixed
>>62274675
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>>62304242
Then why do fags like you keep complaining about it?
Checkmate atheists.
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Chromium is so shit I can't even...
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If you want to copy a bookmark manager design copy Uzbl, is similar to Newsbeuter using tags and browsing is blazing fast because is based on the vim idea of a backslash to search through.
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>>62268919
Oh, that's nice.
How do you enjoy working on everything except an actual, working browser?
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>>62307569
Less, man and many other applications use the same idea of searching with backslash. I think even Ranger does.
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>>62265906
Are you going to use the leaked presto code or nah?
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>>62307866
All of them explicitly implement vi-like keybinds (for example, man and less also use gg to go to the beginning and G to go to the end, among others).
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>>62304242
to be clear, racism doesn't exist. just facts.
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Guys I've been searching for a browser to replace firefox and in the meantime Uzbl is very good, look at the scripts page. It is as how a browser should be, extensible. The bookmark system is pretty sweet and could port my gigantic collection from firefox, also the tabbed version is incredible, has tree style tab, and also userscripts like greasemonkey and userstyles. Check it.
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>>62309098
They never joke when they say one should learn vi for the sake of the keybinds.
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>>62265906
why the fuck did you morons move it to C++?
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What's wrong with Brave?
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what about epic privacy browser? is it shit?
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Firefox's drag and drop feature is broken since 55
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>Stallman Tier
I'll send Stallman and e-mail and ask him what he thinks about the project. Will report back with results.
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Feefox for FF57 when ?
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>>62296244
bool isAbsolutePath(const std::string s) {
return (s.length() > 0 && s[0] == '/');
}

bool fileExists(const std::string s) {
struct stat buf;
return stat(s.c_str(), &buf) != -1;
}


You sure like to make lots of copies, Anon.
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>>62311276
It's GPLv3 so he will be happy about it's ethical. As for if he likes the software itself, maybe he might
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>>62310531
Some garbage indian browser that was only relevant because it was advertised on /g/ a few years ago
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>>62280340
Bullshit. Waterfox is way faster than fire easily
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>maxthon
What is wrong with this browser?
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>>62290337
Because you get zero profit
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>>62313416
Do you have any proof that isn't placebo?
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>>62311352
What?
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>>62313420
non free and chinese
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>>62265906
>written in C++

LMAO
Remind me again why I should support this brainlet trash
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>>62313956
Why should it be in C?
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>>62267235
Plus it supports images.
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made an Arch PKGBUILD
https://paste.installgentoo.com/view/raw/fb7a4b5d

Note that I'm removing -Werror flag as because of implici fallthroughs compile normally falls.
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>>62307569
Newsbeuter tags are GOAT, importing an opml file from liferea doesn't break the hierarchy either just transform it into sophisticated tags.
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>>62315334
Very nice, Werror should honestly be removed, I don't know why it's in there in the first place
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>>62315339
Nice
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>>62311352
Why?
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>>62266472
It's not being political
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Hey devs check this http://www.panix.com/~wje/?uzbl
Is a manual on how Uzbl works, pretty good to describe configuration and overall inner workings. I believe is a good source of inspiration for Netrunner configuration, the part on how system wide configuration don't interfere with user set configuration was nice. And I won't deny I am in love with the bindings.
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>>62318494
>drops a 600k html file, read this
>not explaining how it config works
probably something stupid like the normal unix config paradigms that don't work crossplatform.
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>>62318494
It's supposed to be vi keybindings out of the box
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>>62313325
doesn't the compiler optimize that shit these days?
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>>62265906
.deb?
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>>62319077
No .deb yet, install dependencies then compile it
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bump
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>>62318494
Why was Surf made if Uzbl exist?
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>>62320998
suckless wanted their own browser like how they have their own wm and terminal
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Where goes firefox nightly?
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Odilitime, do you have a new progress report?
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>>62321409
tl;dr: major changes that you can't see

I've been doing a major refactor, throwing out half the code in some files. Means no new features but removes barriers to adding them. Most of the directory structure has been moved around to better reflect our future.

All the OpenGL/glfw code is now container in only 2 classes. Paving the way for older OpenGL support, framebuffer and textual interface.

However OpenGL optimizations did take a step backwards: resizing is super fast but a render (which only happens on load or on resize) is much slower. Though this new structure will allow for texture atlasing.

Doing research on how I want to structure my javascript interpreter for next week's work. Also spent some time today on research for vi-style key bindings and looked into https://reproducible-builds.org/.

A lot of breaking things that used to work. Spending hours finding the change that broke them before fixing and repeating.
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>>62265906
Where does Firefox ESR 52 or older fit in?
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>>62321686
You're not the real odilitime
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>>62321686
>throwing out half the code in some files. Means no new features but removes barriers to adding them
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>>62321686
>vi-style key bindings
>https://reproducible-builds.org/
Oh shit nigga
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>>62322418
That's not the real odilitime, it's a fake
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>>62274751
be furries
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>>62274751
Something happened
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>>62265906
Is opera that shit? Been using it since 2010.
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NetRunner

.snap package when?
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>>62324072
Why?
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Why didn't you call it Slamfire or Slampiggy or Dieselfire? Netrunner sounds gay as fuck
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>>62324094
No, it sounds cool
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>>62269069
>remaining disk space
Neato
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>>62274751
Decided to ban some ad ons due to political reasons (ad nauseam in this case), and tried to force people to disable adblock while browsing the site. Furry in chief threw a hissy fits when people pointed out this was not only retarded in and of itself but also flew in the face of the whole point of palemoon ("Your Browser, Your Way").
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>>62324102
Yeah, very cool
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>>62324094
no U

>>62324101
this
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>>62324076
>brainlet detected
It's a universal format that will allow multiple distros to use it.

You don't need to package a .deb/yum ect for every indivual distro.

It's also sandboxed for security.
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>>62324094
>Why didn't you call it Gayshit or Fagshit or Homofaggotron? Netrunner sounds gay as fuck
Huh........
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>>62324123
Do you know the dependencies to support snaps? Like, does it need a particular filesystem for the sandbox or something?
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>>62324123
It's shit
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>>62324161
you only need snapd which is the package manager

the rest is dependant on the dev who packages the application and dependencies

you dont need anything else
snapcraft.io has tutorials
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>>62324181
so why don't you build one for netrunner?
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>>62324181
Why not you go make one and then show us what its like with it, it'll come with full dependencies and everything
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>>62324192
>>62324190
Yeah, if snap packages are as great as he says they are, why not he prove it
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>>62324190
>>62324192
I'm using a Arm board so I can't compile the source locally.
I also don't have the storage required to build it at the moment.

Just saying that the devs should probably investigate it for deployment of binaries because otherwise they will have a lot of conflict building for every single distro.
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>>62324190
>>62324192
>>62324205
>>62324220

How about https://build.snapcraft.io/
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>>62324220
You got a point, because devs insist on keeping the versions requied high despite the few requirements. I have to compile the dependencies locally to use it
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>>62324205
because I'm not the dev to the project.

I don't know how you expect people to test your software if you can't even distribute it without requiring people to compile it.
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>>62324236
we already provide binary packages
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>>62324236
There are precompiled binaries on the website
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>>62324254
Please stop giving him attention, he and others come every single thread to complain about the project
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Wait, snaps require systemd!
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>>62324260
Well fuck snaps, isn't there something like snaps but systemd free?
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>>62324272
Appimages
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>>62324272
I have a list, there's about 7 of them
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>>62324280
>>62324277
Are they secure?
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>>62324260
What's wrong with systemd?

Don't pretend your systemd doesn't have libsystemd0
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>>62324301
Appimages use a separate filesystem, so yes
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>>62324301
honestly haven't looked into too deeply but they are sandboxed.
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>>62324305
I don't use systemd
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>>62324277
>>62324301
Appimages don't provide sandboxing.
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>>62324312
Don't lie.
udev/pulse/xorg/gnome all rely on it and even more.
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>>62324327
If they use a separate filesystem then you can use a sandbox around, and there is firejail.
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>>62324327
firejail has native appimage support, so maybe that works?
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>>62324310
No they aren't.

>>62324349
That's just another layer of cruft.
You can also argue that you can firejail a snap to be twice as secure.
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>>62324343
I don't use systemd. I use eudev, alsa, and i3. xorg doesn't need it but xorg is terrible in and of itself. If only there was a non-shit non-dead x server available, I'd swap to it in a heartbeat.
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New one
>>62324402
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>>62324369
firejails origins are very sketchy

pretty sure its alphabet agency made like selinux
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>>62324410
I don't know why you'd think that in any way. I would look at CVEs instead and point out that early on it had quite a few. Unfortunately it's the only good software of its class right now that I'm aware of. If you know anything else like it, please do share.
Or maybe /g/ could work on this.




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