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We are making a web browser!
PREVIOUSLY >>61507391

In the face of recent changes in Firefox and Chrome some anons were asking for a /g/'s perfect web browser, we collected the most wanted here and plan on continuing with the creation.

To contribute follow the WORK PLAN, join the IRC to ask developers for a repo, and get to programming!

WEBSITE: https://retrotech.eu/netrunner/
IRC on Rizon: #/g/netrunner
IRC guide: https://pastebin.com/YDbEWRHV

Gitgud: https://gitgud.io/odilitime/netrunner/
Teknik: https://git.teknik.io/gyroninja/netrunner
Github: https://github.com/5yph3r/Netrunner

>TODO:
- Host project at savannah.nongnu.org
- Set bug tracker and mailing list in Savannah.

>WORK PLAN
1. Browse links2 source code (you can use Ctags for tagging functions and files).
2. Expose API and give access to everything (scripting through executables is planned).
3. Give total control over the DOM, put options in files inside a hierarchical folder structure referencing sites and subsites.
4. Implement a link grabber for every link and media type to be parsed by scripts and independent applications.
5. Create an uncomplicated switch to general security profiles located in saved files.
6. Implement ncurses simple tree style graphics for bookmarks, tabs, advanced security policies by site, etc.
7. Work in the framebuffer graphics rendering.
8. Open API to javascript support (version 2.1pre28 of links2 had javascript enabled).
9. Cache, logs, cookies, and other data storage options.
10. Ports routing proxy management.
11. Vim/Emacs modes, dwb hints and quickmarks.
12. Optionally add parser for HTML, DJVU, PDF, epub, etc.?

FEATURES https://pastebin.com/bnUU6kcu
FAQ https://pastebin.com/gjp7QmQJ
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I pulled both your Gitgud and Teknik repos to have a look at the code, and I thought it was gonna be messy but you guys chose good conventions, and thats the first step to a good project! The current codebase is clean and easy to navigate.

Is there a Windows dev in yet? that could be interesting to have a win32 version too. (And not too hard I think, since you guys only used xplatform stuff from what I saw).
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>>61578101
I think that was the idea from the beginning, it was a bit of a long wait at the start because they were working on the links2 codebase. Not sure if any of the devs got someone working in the windows port but I remember there was a downloadable link some time ago.
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>>61578213
Yeah I think they completely dropped the links2 codebase and started from scratch.
Did a "fork" of some kind happen? It went from links2 + C to scratch + C++ (which is a good option too imho)
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>>61578244
Do you think they really dropped the links2 codebase? I am not sure, maybe they transform it beyond recognition, there is a lot of code there.
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>>61578319
not as much as the links2 source I'm pretty sure. I could run a cloc on both sources but I'm lazy.
And whats the point in rewriting links2 when you can just read it and "re-inplement" parts of it? I'm guessing thats what they are doing

I think I remember a commit saying that they removed links2, now that I think about it
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Post pics of netrunner browsing /g/.
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Why don't you just fork Firefox?
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>>61578462
I would if I was running linux, anon (tho I have a mac around, I'll test later if there is a build)
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>>61578064
Who ever is making these threads, please get in touch with the team on IRC, pls.
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>>61578484
Not one of the devs, but why don't you have a look at the size of Firefox's source code? Its as stupid as saying "Why don't you fork Chromium". Just the build system of those projects is a project on its own.

Sometimes building from scratch is required. Wipe out the old and build the new! Or at least I believe it.
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>>61578509
I didn't see one up so I made it. So you really don't know who originally made these threads?
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>>61578064
Nice shitty worthless browser you fucking faggot, it's going to fail.
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I believe all started with the constant browser threads, we all know about the firefox hate threads so everybody started looking for a better alternative. Everything evolved naturally.

Nobody knows who started the OP, but who cares.
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>>61578571
Thank you. The threads provide a lot of motivation.

But yea, everyone on the project I've talked to has claimed they have never made an thread.

Just want to get in touch with some of the original project involved, so we can get the vision.
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>>61578101
No windows dev yet. We've had a couple people try to build on windows (VC and Mingw). The code should be work in Windows without much work (though Visual C needs that anime.h converted into a different format).

>>61578244
We never used c.

>>61578319
We never used links2 code.

>>61578462
See pic

Also just attempted to make some videos, but can't get them to 4mb.
https://my.mixtape.moe/pqewwk.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/lzotpv.webm

>>61578484
because Firefox has a lot of crap we don't want or need.

>>61578493
README has all the latest packages
>20170723 binary package https://my.mixtape.moe/hysamb.zip

>>61578515
this too
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Do you have a logo yet
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>>61578064
thought you guys died
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2nd video converted to low bitrate webm
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>>61579316
>>61579558
>>61579638
>NEW FEATURE COMPLETE
Where is your webkit god now
Where is your blink god now
Where is your servo god now
Where is your chrome god now
Where is your vivaldi god now
Where is your firefox god now

chrome shills in suicide watch!
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>>61578101
Same here, first time I look at the code too, and it's very familiar to put that way.
Very good start guys

Nuking my box right, but I'll load it up again when I'm done
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>>61579316
Only thing stopping a windows build is the step where you generate the font and texture shaders in the makefile which I'll be working on later. Was the VS guy, I'll push a solution & project file when it works
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>>61579906
Yea Xcode can't do that either. I was thinking about just including them in the git premade since they rarely change.
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>>61580058
I think this is a good idea
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>>61579544
We're still taking submissions for branding desu.
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>>61579569
it has, there's just a thread that starts every now and then in order to give people a false sense of reality that the project's active
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>>61580300
There are binaries on the site.
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>>61578684
Some guy collected the copypasta list of requirements. It was a thread where I think some oldfag type guy said he remembers some meme browser being the best meme a few years ago, and asking what was the best meme right now.
Discussion ensued about stuff like qutebrowser and how no browser was really good enough.

Then after the list was compiled and posted there a thread with the same copypasta was made(presumably by the same guy), with a call to action for /g/ to make it.
I don't know whether it's mostly the same guy making these /nrg/ threads or not, but at least that's how it all begun.
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>>61580606
>literally meme magic brought this into existent
holy fuck
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>>61578064
Hey guys have you come up with a logo yet?
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>>61580606
why wasn't qutebrowser good enough?
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>>61580782
I can think of three possible reasons
>It wasn't made in C89
>It's made in python
>QT
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>>61580749
stop larping faggot
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>>61580782
The dev needs to work on security features more but I will try it on my laptop because on the distro I am there is not binary and I may need to compile it. Is not the definitive answer like netrunner but looks nice.
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best logo coming through
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>>61578064
Please keep your website retro looking.

- wibr.me guy
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>>61581938
This, we are many who like these kind of feel.
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>>61581938
>>61581997
I'll keep that in mind.

The site will be overhauled.

I suppose we are aiming for something between the aesthetics of realtek and 7zip, I'll try to have a high contrast version included.
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>>61581896
If that's original. Thats very nice.
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I like how you are trying to disassociate netrunner from moonman.
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>netrunner general
>/ntr/
>NTR
fucking cucks
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Logo?
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>>61582094
Poor moon man, he is just a misused figure that the majority won't recognize as negative, and is pretty cool too.

>>61582432
I dig this.
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>>61582432
neato, maybe a tint of yellow to the moon man?
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>>61582705
never mind i tried it, white is best
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Today's OSX release and progress report

20170726 binary package https://my.mixtape.moe/iguajs.zip

- changed default resolution (still smaller than 720p but bigger than 640x480)
- moved anime girl over, so more content is readable
- set proper scroll min/maxes (so you don't scroll off the page)
- make resizing on match initial layout
- better setDom memory management (cleans up old unused nodes/components)
- ugly hacks to support more URLs
- some comments
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>>61582432
>>61582705
>>61582724
Light blue looks good, trust me.

>>61582936
Speaking of sexy, looking good man.
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>>61582432
Not material enough, needs drop shadow
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>>61582974
>material design
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>>61578064
You should make an appimage for netrunner
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>>61583281
I second this.
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Today's Linux binary package

20170726 binary package https://my.mixtape.moe/xqvpqc.tar.gz

same changes as >>61582936
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>>61583281
but there's no really weird dependencies or anything complicated to install, it's just extract run at the moment.
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Bug:
Status is 200 OK
HTMLParser::Parse - currentNode/parent is null - close tag
Parsed document in: 0.000052 seconds
Could not create window
./cr: line 5: 6619 Segmentation fault ./netrunner http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
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>>61583355
OpenGL couldn't initialize. I don't know much on linux beyond I think opengl right now requires X11 and associated drivers.
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>>61583382
I'm currently using X11 and associated drivers.
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>>61578064
>cpp
Dropped.
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>>61578064
I don't see any design documentation. Something as complex as a web browser needs to be designed first and programmed second.
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>>61578064
TAR BALL WHEN
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>>61583693
>UML
Fucking disgusting
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chrome is still supreme

>inb4 botnet
>inb4 political sjw

only you autists care about that
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>>61583693
That's some home opinion you got there.
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Snappack/flatpack when!?
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>>61583382
Is your opengl 3.3 or higher?
>Possible errors include GLFW_NOT_INITIALIZED, GLFW_INVALID_ENUM, GLFW_INVALID_VALUE, GLFW_API_UNAVAILABLE, GLFW_VERSION_UNAVAILABLE, GLFW_FORMAT_UNAVAILABLE and GLFW_PLATFORM_ERROR.
I'll make the build tomorrow output the exact error.

>>61583693
it's in the etherpad we have.

>>61583705
Today see >>61583308

>>61583757
good to see you're around, we thought Google had stopped paying you or worse.

>>61583838
right after the appimage
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>>61584735
>>>61583705 (You)
>Today see >>61583308
hjow do I scan it 4 virsues k thx
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>>61583469
I know it's only cool to write browser in assembly these days but you got to start somewhere.

>>61583693
Yes, needs to be researched and documented Then peer reviewed and approved by committee. Then standardize by the governing bodies but never ever fucking built.

>>61584757
https://www.comodo.com/home/internet-security/antivirus-for-linux.php
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>>61582432
He looks slightly out of position
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>>61583757
2 rupees have been successfully deposited on your Chrome Shilling Account

>>61584813
But why C++ instead of C?
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>>61580782
I think it's mostly python an qt

Plus netrunner is meant to work in the framebuffer too
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>>61581896
Why the raped N though
It looks like a really drunk guy tried drawing a fancy typeset N, and failed accordingly
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>>61587446
qutebrowser works in the framebuffer (pretty much any Qt application does).
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>to do
>everything
wew lad
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>>61586776
Why C instead of C++?
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>>61582432
I like this a lot
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>>61584813
>>61587628
I am not an authority on the subject but many knowledgeable developers blame cpp of being too unmaintainable, prone to suffer more from the mistakes in coding, and iirc not as efficient. And all them praise C, but that is what I see from the comments of professional developers.
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You should really get on to dealing with https, currently it just fails with 301 status, then redirects. BUT since you're not dealing with https you try the same thing again and get stuck in a neverending loop of 301
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>>61582432
I can't unsee the blue jew
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>>61590120
With a goatee?
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>>61582936
Just get rid of the anime girl its retarded.
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>>61591600
I agree only if he use moon man instead :^)
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>>61580782
>fuckton of dependencies
>randomly hangs
>can't handle suspending
>cursor blinks when not in inset mods
>doesn't just werk
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>gpl
>gpl3
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>>61591692
Enjoy being a cuck
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>>61578064
Yeah this will end well.
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>>61591705
if you're not a 'cuck' you should make it proprietary.
GPL is like BSD, but only black males can fuck your wife.
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>>61591737
k
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What's up with the grey bar at the top???
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>Written in C++
You niggers better be valgrinding the shit out of this and fuzzing 24/7.
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>>61591869
>fucking 24/7
How are they going to get any programming done if they're invloved in a non-stop orgy?
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>>61592014
he said fuzzing
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>>61592026
Oh shit I'm retarded. Brb kys myself
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>>61592014
>Doesn't know how to penetration test
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>>61592014
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So does it pass acid2 yet?
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>>61578101
>https://retrotech.eu/netrunner/
You are good anon, bless
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I don't mean to be THAT guy who points out what he sees as "good-start" (for lack of a better term). But, this these threads are incredibly constructive and filled with useful content - relative to other thread topics.
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>>61593848
I'll continue to use "retrotech" to represent the project.

I'll be moving all the relevant materials onto a dedicated website. Join the IRC and/or discords to help contribute.
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Does this thing need gtk or qt?
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>>61594479
None, god bless the devs.
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Did anyone try to compile using mingw? Or is it sure not to pass?
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>>61594493
Now we're taking.
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>>61582432
svg?
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>>61591869
Please pay attention to this.
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>>61591869
You do it.
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>We are making a web browser!

no you're not, you've got one high school "hacker" after a 2-week c++ internet course and 4 idea guys making logos 24/7

pic related
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I urge everyone wasting their time here to instead contribute to qutebrowser. It's modern, already usable, and in better hands than the retards of /g/ (the fact that they even think this is a good idea is proof of their complete incompetence).
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>>61597822
threw up a little in my mouth
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>>61597822
Why don't you contribute then? And that code has already been replaced
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>>61578064
Devil's advocate here.
It would be very impressive if you can pull this off.
However, I recommend using Firefox's software as a foundation.

Toggling TOR mode would be sweet too
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>>61578064
This is not going to be better than Chrome. Might as well throw in the towel now.
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chrome shill never sleeps
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>>61597910
Because it's a piece of shit that ain't going anywhere. I'd rather use my effort on something even marginally useful
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>>61598188
Like wasting your time on /g/?
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>>61598268
we all waste a lot of time on this taiwanese stamp collecting forum anon

>>61597822
Just briefly looked at it anon, it isn't that bad in my eyes. It's just a start after all
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why not just work on ungoogled chromium? it's very unpolished, it'd be the browser to go
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>>61578064
>cpu and net usage goes up with every keystoke and a process appears when you type something and move your mouse

hahaha /g/ fucking /g/fags with a keylogger browser
hahahaha
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>>61578064
Guys, I just noticed this project.

Is it a text-only browser? If so, are there any plans to build a rendering engine from scratch?
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Why OpenGL instead of Vulkan?
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>>61599216
They already work on the rendering, look closer.
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waiting for windows release how long till its done
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>>61584735
I got OpenGL 2.1
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>>61599340
see >>61600091
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Today's release and progress report

2017-07-27 OSX binary package https://my.mixtape.moe/gbludd.zip
2017-07-27 Linux binary package https://my.mixtape.moe/ltuspw.tar.gz

- Improved inline text wrapping (pic related)
- report glfw errors better
- fixed crash if you forgot http:// on your URL
- GyroNinja has stepped down as lead developer, Odilitime is now lead
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>>61600526
> ./cr
...
Status is 200 OK
main:::handleRequest - statusCode: 200
Parsed document in: 0.000060 seconds
glfw error [65543]:GLX: Failed to create context: GLXBadFBConfig
Could not create window
glfw error [65537]:The GLFW library is not initialized
TextRasterizer::rasterize - x [0] matches window width [0] for text[This is a motherfucking website.] no room to render anything
./cr: line 5: 15487 Segmentation fault ./netrunner http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/


- amd64 Gentoo
- OpenGL 2.1
- media-libs/glew-2.0.0
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>>61586776
>But why C++ instead of C?
Somethings are nicer plus objects can provide inheritance in a more legible way. I'm also considering converting some C++ back into C where the OOP stuff isn't needed or used.

>>61587628
C is much simpler and the compiler can usually do a much better job with the code. The C++ templates expand into some serious garbage that the compiler can't do anything about.

>>61588854
Spent some time research this today, I think we're going to have to add a new dependency to add this (thinking libsodium). Not a fan of more dependencies, may put this off for a bit unless I really hear demand for this.

>>61591780
Placeholder for address bar.

>>61591869
>>61596729
Completely agree.

>>61593770
I'd be surprised if it could view the acid2 docs

>>61593872
Tks

>>61594479
Nope, custom OpenGL 3.3 engine.

>>61594585
One anon started too, haven't heard back.

>>61597822
I feel like we have as many logos as clovers has wallpapers

>>61597883
See >>61580782 subthread

>>61597977
/thread

>>61598827
Yup from 1% to 5%, artifacts of GLFW and our current knowledge. There was some research and discussion on IRC today on how to make it even more efficient.

>>61599216
It will have a text-only renderer available but not yet. It is a custom engine.

>>61599340
We may add support for it in the future.

>>61599444
A lot of people asking for this today. I'll work on this next week if no one steps up before then.

>>61600581
Yea, right now requires OpenGL 3.3, I'd like to get it down to 2.1 (for my snow leopard boxes too) but this is a low priority. I want to fix all the text render issues, so I can move on to the CSS/JS framework so those can be flushed out.
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>>61600724
>requires OpenGL 3.3
So I just can't use it until I get a new graphics card? Shit, man, that'll be weeks from now.
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>>61600724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S1fISh-pag
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>its not in C
i thought that was one of the big features
dropped
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>>61600889
All of my kek
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>>61600724
Looks better by the minute tb.h f.am
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>>61600913
Einstein running it thought switching to C++ was a good idea.
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>>61578064
cuck general when the fuck are you at least going to release an alpha build, its been months or is this another vaporware
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>>61602148
see >>61600526
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Does it work? I was thinking of switching to CloverOS and Netrunner for maximum memes.
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This is getting better by the day OP. Keep up the good werk
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>>61602958
It works for text on some websites
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>See >>61580782 subthread
I did. I personally don't think any of the given reasoning is very compelling. Unless you think there are serious fundamental problems with qutebrowser that outweigh netrunner's own (please don't kid yourself to think netrunner has none), it would be a better use of your time to address the issues you have with qutebrowser. Writing a web browser for the modern era by hacking up an outdated engine is an impossible endeavor for any small team, let alone a ragtag group from 4chan. I know you all have the best intentions, but please put the effort into something that will actually come to fruition, even if it is not perfect.
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Status is 200 OK
main:::handleRequest - statusCode: 200
Parsed document in: 0.004165 seconds
Renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 OpenGL Engine
Version: 4.1 NVIDIA-10.11.5 346.03.06f01
OpenGL setup
TextRasterizer::rasterize - x [1459] requested outside of window width [1024] for text[About]
TextRasterizer::rasterize - x [1459] requested outside of window width [1024] for text[ • ]
TextRasterizer::rasterize - x [1459] requested outside of window width [1024] for text[Feedback]
TextRasterizer::rasterize - x [1459] requested outside of window width [1024] for text[ • ]
TextRasterizer::rasterize - x [1459] requested outside of window width [1024] for text[Legal]
TextRasterizer::rasterize - x [1459] requested outside of window width [1024] for text[ • ]
TextRasterizer::rasterize - x [1459] requested outside of window width [1024] for text[Contact]
Parsed dom in: 1.624293 seconds
Segmentation fault: 11
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is it done yet?

hurry the fuck up, buttholes!
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>>61604257
qutebrowser has it's own goals and we have our own. Doesn't make sense to work on other goals that aren't ours.

>>61604303
today's build? what website?
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>>61604726

>today's build? what website?

yup. this thread.
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>>61604730
can't reproduce, can you gdb and provide a backtrace (bt) ?
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>>61600724
>Placeholder for address bar.

Why does the text go ovet it then? And shouldn't the website start just under it then?
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>>61582936
>- moved anime girl over, so more content is readable
amazing progress. chrome is fucking finished
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>>61578064
Why did you choose to base it on links2 and not w3m?
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>>61604730
I think I figured it out, code change is committed but you'll have to wait for the next binaries.

>>61605087
We'll get there.

>>61605137
that's just what /g/ selected, we ended up starting from scratch.
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How do I actually run this program?
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>>61606643
./netrunner http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
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>>61606663
>./netrunner http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
Okay, I'm bit of the retarded type but I think I got it now.
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>>61604303
you were trying to resize the window didnt you

why does that crash the whole thing
pls fix


also fuck me, I've seen netrunner threads for the past weeks and didnt notice it was a /g/ project, now I'm interested but late to the party
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Oh, finally, /g/ makes something, instead of discussing bullshit topics like "IS LINUX A MEME, TELL ME IT'S A MEME, I AM 15 AND I AM STILL A VIRGIN, SHOULD I USE LINUX THEN?"
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>>61606981
These threads have been going on for a couple of months, more than just the past week. I don't know how long it's actually been in development, however.

I'm also sure that the devs will be more than happy to have you contribute, and that you aren't late to any parties in that regard.
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>>61607336
you still belong to the side that doesn't do anything though
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>>61608193
yeah well I'm a shitty programmer and I lack motivation (not free time tho, I'm a NEET) to learn how a webbrowser works, so prolly not going to happen
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I'd like to help out but I'm not sure I have the skills needed.

What should I begin researching if I want to try and help out with anything?
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>>61608617
I dunno
you could dive into the code and try to understand it
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>>61608617
>I'd like to help out but I'm not sure I have the skills needed.
Don't worry neither do the devs
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>>61578064
>/ntr/
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>anime girl in the background

this isn't going anywhere
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>>61578064
God damn it,half of the shit jumped through my head how does these things even make sense to you guys? Where to start,damn I feel so worthless.
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>>61587545
Even with the qtwebengine backend?
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>>61608193
it's more, if he contributes he would then be the dev, singular
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>>61609942
Do you know about Ctags?
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>>61587486
i like it it reminds me of poor design choices from the 90s
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>>61610095
Nope.
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>>61610431
Start by using ctags with the code.
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>>61606981
I'm hoping today's release will have a great uptick in stability. (pic related)

>>61608193
Dev started about a month ago but then we had a 2 week break to work on other shit.

>>61608617
We need just as many non-devs as we need devs. We need people to get educated on what we're doing and help spread the word, including project goals, status and documentation. Stop by the IRC or discord.

https://gitgud.io/odilitime/netrunner for more info.
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>>61609974
No, only with QtWebKit.
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>>61600766
I tried converting the shaders to GLSL130 but I have no clue what I'm doing. If any one can review and point me in the right direction, OGL 2.1 users will love you.

My GLSL 130 attempt (pic related)
https://spit.mixtape.moe/view/b9b79de6

original working 330 scripts are in https://gitgud.io/odilitime/netrunner/tree/master/src/graphics/opengl/shaders
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>>61600724
>C is much simpler and the compiler can usually do a much better job with the code. The C++ templates expand into some serious garbage that the compiler can't do anything about.
compilers can actually do better with c++, and templates can be optimized very well
it takes longer to compile, specially if you abuse templates and use horrible metaprogramming when you dont need it.




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